Adelaide Fertility Seminar

Adelaide Fertility Seminar with Dr Andrew Orr

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Attention Adelaide couples trying to have a baby:

*Are you struggling to fall pregnant?

*Have you had multiple failed cycles of IVF, or Assisted Reproductive Therapies?

*Do you want to know ways to increase your chances of pregnancy?

*Are you struggling to fall pregnant a second time around?

*Do you feel like a number at your fertility clinic?

*Do you feel like your fertility specialist, GP, or gynaecologist isn’t listening to you?

*Could you have had things missed in your fertility investigations?

*Are you getting to a point where your fertility journey is getting you down?

*Do you just want proper answers to why you aren’t conceiving?

*Have both you and your partner been evaluated properly?

*Are you considering IVF, or Assisted Reproductive Therapies and want to know more?

*Do you just think that there could be more to your issues that haven’t been looked at?


Dr Andrew Orr will be in Adelaide on Friday 20th May for a series of seminars and women’s health retreat over that weekend and has opened up his schedule to see couples who may need his help

This is a unique opportunity for anyone who is having trouble falling pregnant and needs the help of one of Australias leading Fertility & Reproductive Medicine specialists. But you need to book in asap to avoid missing out. Normally couples would need to fly up and see us for this.

Dr Andrew Orr’s highly successful Fertility Program has helped over 12,000 babies into the world, has been showcased on national television and other forms of media and can help increase your fertility success rates by 96.1% *

If you would like to know more please call our clinic on 07 32795697, or email us at

We do need to know numbers by this Friday 13th and have paperwork back asap. Again this is a unique opportunity to get the answers you never get from anywhere else, so make sure you book in asap

You can also get information on our website by clicking the link below.…/

Shen Therapies Highly Successful Fertility Program

Shen Therapies Fertility Program



  • Are you struggling to fall pregnant?
  • Have you had multiple failed cycles of IVF, or Assisted Reproductive Therapies?
  • Do you want to know ways to increase your chances of pregnancy?
  • Are you struggling to fall pregnant a second time around?
  • Do you feel like a number at your fertility clinic?
  • Do you feel like your fertility specialist, GP, or gynaecologist isn’t listening to you?
  • Could you have had things missed in your fertility investigations?
  • Are you getting to a point where your fertility journey is getting you down?
  • Do you just want proper answers to why you aren’t conceiving?
  • Have both you and your partner been evaluated properly?
  • Are you considering IVF, or Assisted Reproductive Therapies and want to know more?
  • Do you just think that there could be more to your issues that haven’t been looked at

Shen Therapies Reproductive Medicine highly successful Fertility Program has helped over 12,000 babies into the world and can help increase your fertility success rates by 96.1% * (based on independent research)

For years Dr Andrew Orr has seen couples, single women, same sex couples and anyone requiring fertility help, walk through his door, emotionally exhausted, desperate and at breaking point. The problem for many of these people is that they have not been investigated properly by everyone they have seen, both medically and holistically. Worse still some of the people are already at a point of giving up, believing they have done everything possible, when in fact they haven’t. The sad fact is that some people may have already given up thinking they did everything, when actual fact they may not have. It is so sad when Dr Andrew Orr hears stories like this is why he is so passionate about helping  couples, single women and same sex couples, get the right information and help them to be properly diagnosed or investigated.

About Dr Andrew Orr


Dr Andrew Orr is one of Australia’s leading integrative medicine specialists who has a medical degrees with a Masters in Reproductive Medicine and a Masters in Women’s Health (Medical). He is well known in both the medical and complementary medicine fields for all of his success and work with couples for Fertility and pregnancy and also for people with gynaecological conditions such as Endometriosis and PCOS.

Dr Andrew Orr is also a Doctor of Traditional Chinese Medicine, a qualified Naturopath, a Nutritionist, and is an owner/Director of his own Herbal Medicine and Nutritional Supplement Company-ConceptShen Nutritional Medicine PTY LTD.

Dr Orr is also a Lecturer, Public Speaker, Researcher, Mentor, Writer, Author and more.

Dr Andrew Orr has helped nearly 12,000 babies into the world with his unique fertility program combining Eastern, Western and Nutritional Medicine. It is truly an integrative medicine program that sets itself apart and he has gained much media attention about it. He has been on national television on programs like “A Current Affair” and many local and state television shows for his successes with fertility. In the media he has been named “The Brisbane Baby Maker”.

He has also had independent research done on his program and the results have showed that it can help couple increase their fertility success rates by 96.1%*

Dr Andrew Orr has written and reviewed for the Australian Medical Journal, written for leading Magazines and has appeared on Channel 9’s A Current Affair, Channel 9’s Brisbane Extra and been in national papers and health magazines.

Dr Andrew Orr also lecturers to Health Care Professionals, Specialists, Midwives, students and the general public on a regular basis.

Dr Andrew Orr has a passion for Health Care and helping people to get the best out of their lives on both a physical and emotional level. He also has a passion for helping fellow practitioners gain knowledge and to also help anyone who needs help with changing their lives for the better.

Dr Andrew Orr also specialises in gynaecological conditions such as endometriosis and PCOS and travels the country lecturing to healthcare professionals about the importance of early intervention and treatment for women. He is very passionate about informing women of the medical facts about gynaecological conditions and to not wait and put up with things such as period pain. His motto is always that “Period Pain Is Not Normal” and that he has a “No Stone Left Unturned Approach” to anyone he helps.

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About Dr Andrew Orr’s Highly Successful Fertility Program

The Shen Therapies Reproductive Medicine Fertility Program is run by Dr Andrew Orr, who has over 20 years experience in the treating Fertility and Gynaecological issues and hold dual qualifications in both western medicine and complementary medicine to bring people a true integrative approach to fertility issues. He has helped over 12,000 babies into the world via his highly successful Fertility Programme. There really aren’t many people that can say that and his qualification are also a one of a kind. There is really nobody else with his qualifications to date. His success has been documented nationwide in the media and he is known as “The Brisbane Baby Maker”

The Fertility Programme is very through. Many people don’t realise what goes on in the background before you even step through our door. Comprehensive questionnaires are sent out to people and medical reports, blood tests, medical investigations, surgical intervention (if needed) and everything that is needed for your reproductive and health history is chased up and checked so that people are diagnosed correctly.

Both men and women are assessed as fertility issues are not just related to females. Over 50% of fertility issues are related to make factors and many miscarriage issues are related to chromosomal factors relating to the male also. Dr Andrew Orr is always seeing many male issues are missed due to non compliance and assumptions. Biology 101 tells us it takes a sperm and an egg to make a baby, not just an egg. Everything for the couple, or anyone needing fertility treatment, is assessed properly and thoroughly before you even walk in the door.

Fertility treatments aren’t just about having Acupuncture or holistic medicine either. Couples are then assessed and treated on both a medical and complementary medicine level and a comprehensive report is written up with all the changes and investigations that you will need to get do. These recommendations are then constantly checked and followed up to ensure couples get all the investigations done and that all the requested changes are made. There is no stone left unturned.

The program encompasses dietary changes, addressing nutritional deficiencies, reducing stress, managing emotions, enhancing immunity and improving sperm and egg quality. We also address known causes of infertility including Endometriosis, Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome and any other pelvic pathology that may be causing fertility issues. Every test or investigation that needs to be done is done and thoroughly looked over.

The program begins with the Fertility Education Session, lasting 3 hours and conducted once per month, or as needed, depending on numbers. These Fertility Education Sessions are conducted to small groups of clients and delivered by myself so that every couple is educated on the changes and investigation that will need to increase their chances of having a baby.

Attendance at a Fertility Education Session is compulsory for singles/couples on the program. At the sessions, clients receive a full report based on previously completed questionnaires and test results, as well as crucial herbs and supplements to begin the journey to conception. Soon after the education session, clients attend a 1 on 1 consult with me to receive additional information and recommendations as well as a treatment plan moving forward.

Treatments on the Shen Therapies Reproductive Medicine fertility Program also involves fortnightly acupuncture appointments for both men and women and the use of individual tailored herbs, herbs from the ConceptShen fertility range and vitamins according to the individual’s holistic diagnosis and their medical diagnosis as well. We have specially trained registered acupuncturists that are also part of the Shen Therapies Reproductive Medicine team.


We See People from All Over Australia & All Over the World

Couples from all over Australia and even internationally have travelled to Brisbane to participate in the Shen Therapies Reproductive Medicine Fertility Program. It is compulsory that all remote, interstate and international patients attend the initial seminar and then consult with me, however following this we also offer Skype consults for the follow-up consultations

We have a postal ordering system which enables our remote patients to order and receive their herbal medicines, ConceptShen fertility formulas, supplements and vitamins at their convenience.

The program is designed to support both natural conception and those couples using Assisted Reproduction Technologies such as IVF and IUI. We follow specific protocols when supporting IVF an IUI cycles, which our staff will explain upon enquiry.

At Shen Therapies Reproductive Medicine we want every couple, or person seeking fertility treatment, to be able to have a baby and we make sure you have everything done possible to ensure you have the best chance of conceiving a baby.

For further information please call Shen Therapies Reproductive Medicine on 61+07 32795697, or email us at

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If You Read Just One Article On Natural Killer Cells, Read This One

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If You Read Just One Article On Natural Killer Cells, Read This One

By Dr Andrew Orr (Reproductive Medicine & Women’s Health Specialist)

On a daily basis we get people, who are having failed IVF cycles, calling our clinic looking for some miracle pill, to supposedly eradicate the body of natural killers cell and wipe them off the face of the planet in some war like rage, all because they have been told this will bring an end to their fertility woes.

I wish it was that easy and when my staff go on to explain that treating natural killers cells, and especially looking at the cause of natural killer cells, is complex, there is no one miracle cure, nor some magic pill, people get annoyed and hang up the phone in a huff ,without listening to the reasons why.

While Natural killer (NK) cells have an important role in the early responses to viral infections, they have also been linked with failure of pregnancy.Increasingly, clinics are offering blood tests, at an increased cost to the patient, to measure the number and activity of circulating NK cells. As a result of these investigations, many women are offered treatments such as steroids, intravenous immunoglobulins, and tumour necrosis factor blocking agents. The scientific rationale for these tests and treatments, however, is not always supported by our current knowledge of the function of uterine NK cells.

So, I thought it was about time I set the records straight on the BS information, that seems to being handed around as gospel, by money hungry fertility clinics run by big health conglomerates, and by the rotten Dr Google, about natural killer cells and these supposed miracle pills, that will miraculously fix someone’s fertility issues.

Let’s Look at the Facts about Natural Killer Cells Relating to Miscarriage

  1. There is no miracle pill, or one supposed miracle treatment, or a one pill solution to treat, or get rid of natural killer cells. You do not want to get rid of NK Cells.
  2. Natural Killer Cells are a natural part of the immune system designed to target inflammation, kill of cancer cells, kill off bacteria and protect the body from harmful invasion of foreign organism
  3. There is huge difference between natural killer cells that are circulating in the blood stream, compared to uterine killer cells
  4. Uterine Killer Cells are in large numbers during a pregnancy to protect the embryo
  5. Natural Killer Cells are only in large number and are only being sent out by the immune system because there is some inflammatory process going on in the pelvis, or the rest of the body
  6. You cannot regulate Natural Killer Cells numbers unless you first address the inflammatory process that is causing them to be in high numbers in the first place (Eg- Inflammatory gynaecological conditions such as PID, Endometriosis, PCOS, Adenomyosis, Adhesions, STI’s, CIN, HPV, Herpes etc)
  7. Many people have not had the proper initial fertility investigations and testing needed to actually fall pregnant in the first place and looking at Natural Killer Cells, before all that proper testing etc is done, is actually not assessing the patient properly.
  8. If you do not treat the cause of the Natural Killer Cells being in high numbers, you will not be able to reduce the numbers of Natural Killer Cells that are actually doing the job they are meant to do, which is …. Protect the Body.
  9. Many of the so called treatments for Natural Killer Cells, regarding fertility, have never been approved for such treatment and research on it is still inconclusive.
  10. Some of the treatments being proclaimed as miracle cures (Intralipids etc) are purely money making exercises that are preying on the vulnerability of people who have been told wrong information and have this perception of some killer being inside their body attacking their embryos.
  11. Intralipids have never been proven to treat Natural Killer Cells and are derived from highly inflammatory soy based compounds, which then in turn can cause more inflammation.
  12. The drugs used in the treatment of Natural Killer Cells are steroidal based and carry many side effects and are for more harmful to the body that any natural killer cell will ever be. The steroids are also a category C drug that has been shown to have an effect on the neonate
  13. Steroids, such as Prednisone, do work on regulating NK cells, but they do so by suppressing the immune system, thus compromising a person’s immunity. There are also risk to peoples minerals by using these long term and there are also other side effects to the body.
  14. Natural Killer Cells are there to protect the body, not hurt it.
  15. Natural Killer Cells are only attacking embryos because they are seen as foreign body as well and when they are there trying to kill of the diseases and issues causing inflammation in the body, they just happen to kill of any other foreign organism and inflammatory processes at the same time
  16. Again, to address natural Killer Cells, you need to address the inflammatory process as to why they are in high numbers in the first place
  17. The perception around Natural Killer Cells being this “thing” killing off embryos in the body is misguided and is actually not a true representation of what Natural Killer Cells actually do. It is purely often used to tug on the heartstring of unsuspecting patients, who are highly emotive and clinics use these emotions to get them to pay for treatments that have never been fully proven to work.
  18. The name “Killer Cell” is too often exploited in the wrong context by many in the fertility world
  19. Blood tests cannot measure the number of Natural Killer Cells in the Uterus, Only a biopsy can do this.A Natural Killer Cell Biopsy has to be done between the 24th and 28th day of your menstrual cycle to give the best results.
  20. Blood tests can only measure the circulating NK cells in the body and not the uterine killer cell activity, which can be the cause of recurrent miscarriage. So, if you have had a blood test, it is not measuring what is needed. Everyone will have circulating NK cells in their blood stream.
  21. The percentage of CD56+ NK cells in peripheral blood in normal healthy individuals varies from 5% to 29% .Despite this, more than 12% NK cells in women with infertility or miscarriage has been arbitrarily defined as abnormally raised and used as an indication for treatment
  22. The percentage of NK cells in blood can be affected by many factors including sex, ethnicity, stress, and age too.

Natural Killer cells (Uterine killer cells and other NK cells) are the main immune cell-type found in the uterus. Their numbers increase through the menstrual cycle to peak at the time of implantation. If an embryo does implant, NK cell numbers increase further to 70% of all cells. Uterine NK numbers start to decrease at around the 20 week mark of pregnancy and are all but absent at the end of pregnancy. Natural killer cells acquired their name as a result of the initial test used to identify them in vitro. Unlike T lymphocytes, NK cells are able to spontaneously kill cells in a non-MHC restricted manner.

Regrettably, this is a misleading name in reproduction, and the powerful image of maternal cells attacking the fetus is emotive and easily exploited. None the less, these NK cells can kill off the embryo at early stages of pregnancy, but there is nearly always a reason why. That reason is inflammation in the pelvic cavity and uterus. This needs to be addressed to regulate the number of NK cells, not some notion of killing off the “Killer Cells”.

Types of Inflammation causing high NK Cells

  • Endometriosis & Adenomyosis
  • Fibroids, Myomas
  • Vaginal Infections & Bacteria
  • STI’s
  • Cancer, Trauma, Localised Lesions & Others
  • Stress

Yes stress can lead to a compromised immune system, which then leads to high TNF (Tumor Necrosing Factor) and increase Natural Killer Cells, which then leads to prolonged increase activated T Cells, and this then causes reduced implantation of embryos.

This is also a reason why any inflammation in the uterus or pelvic cavity needs to be addressed to help fix this issue and one of the reasons why any woman having fertility issues needs to be investigated and treated properly. This needs to involve proper differential diagnosis, proper pathology testing, genetic testing and surgical investigations such as laparoscopy prior to any further fertility treatment. A laparoscopy is the gold standard for addressing and treatment of issues in the uterine and pelvic cavity.

Natural Killer Cells (Uterine Killer Cells) can be a part of recurrent miscarriage, but we need to stop the misinformation and perception of them being some killer organism that isn’t meant to be in the body. They are meant to be in the body and the name is all too often exploited by many to offer unproven treatments and medications by clinics trying to increase profits.

If you want to regulate and treat natural killer cells (relating to recurrent miscarriage) properly, you need to find out what is causing them to be there in the first place. There is no magic pill to get rid of Natural Killer Cells. You cannot rid the body of Natural Killer Cells anyway. They are meant to be there

At Shen Therapies, we have a proper NK cell protocol (designed by Dr Andrew Orr) and treatment plan that is individually tailored and looks at the “cause” of high number of Natural Killer Cells and makes sure that proper investigations, testing and treatment are administered to treat the person properly.


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How the Christmas, New year & Easter Festive Seasons Can Affect a Woman’s Menstrual Cycle

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How the Christmas, New year & Easter Festive Seasons Can Affect a Woman’s Menstrual Cycle

-By Dr Andrew Orr (Reproductive Medicine & Women’s Health Specialist)

We have not long gotten over the Christmas and New Year period and we are about to embark on the fast train into Easter holiday and festive season. While many are getting ready for the sugar fest ahead, with Easter eggs and hot cross buns galore, we need to take the time to understand how this may affect our bodies afterwards, especially for women and their menstrual cycles. Worse still it could even affect pre-existing gynaecological conditions that women live with on a day to day basis, some of which impact women’s day life terribly

Christmas and Easter times always pose great problems for women and their menstrual cycle, and year after year many women never make the correlation why. Year after year I see women coming back to see me, after Christmas and Easter,  scratching their heads as to why all of a sudden their menstrual cycle has gone haywire and they are getting the worst PMS symptoms they’ve had since starting goodness knows

So why do so many women have problems with their menstrual cycle after Christmas and Easter?

The answer is blatantly obvious. Stress, Poor diet and Lifestyle factors!

The lead up to Christmas and Easter, is always a busy time and no matter how much people try to deny it, it is very stressful. People are rushing madly to meet deadlines before everyone goes on holidays and then the mad Christmas and Easter shopping rush that follows.

Then there is the stress of what to buy everyone, followed by the mad catering panic. People litrally go mad and one would think the end of the world is imminent, with supermarkets being emptied by the marketing hype of these two festive seasons.

Then the big day arrives. Everyone forgets the basic principles of a healthy diet and engorge themselves on any food they can lay their hands on. Basically it is a licence to eat as much bad food as we can put in our mouths, and then use the basic excuse of “Its Christmas” or “It’s Easter” and “It is only just one day and it won’t really matter and I had to do it”.

Then one day leads into two, and then this leads into a week and then before we know it, it has been more than just one day of bad eating, or drinking alcohol. The sad fact of that statement is that some people eat and drink alcohol like it’s Christmas and Easter every day.

With Christmas we can have many portions of baked dinner, crackling, seafood, Christmas pudding, chocolate and any other sugar substance that can be consumed it all had to be washed down with a nice alcoholic beverage, or two. Many bottles of bubbly, or choice of poison later, and we now have a stomach full of sugar, fat, cholesterol and alcohol all churning quite nicely. Diabetes and heart disease here we come.

Then approximately 1 week later it is New Years Eve and the licence, to drink like fish and eat like a ravenous bear, is pulled from the pocket and waived around once more. “But it’s Ok”, we say.

The New Year’s resolution will be to not do it again, until next year when all resolutions are forgotten. Meanwhile the system had short circuited, the gut has gone into melt down, the cholesterol levels are rising, the sugar levels have reached diabetes status and the brain cells have been reduced yet again.

Several months later when the system has started to recover, Easter arrives and the sugar binge begins; with Easter eggs and all manner of chocolate, sugar laden delight. The body short circuits itself again and will take until Christmas to recover and then it starts all over again.

Now, I wonder why the menstrual cycle would be affected?

Hmmm, I wonder?

There are only a few things that will affect a menstrual cycle and cause PMS, irregularities and pain. The trouble is many of them can be unknowingly self- inflicted. Yes, many monthly menstrual related problems can be unknowingly self- inflicted.

Let’s not forget that many people do have gynaecological issues that they suffer on a daily basis though. But even still, this high amount of burden on the system will exacerbate these pre-existing conditions and make them worse, due to the resulting high levels of inflammation. What I am trying to do is just make people aware of how conditions can be worsened and how these high levels of inflammation, from high levels of sugars etc, can cause havoc with a woman’s cycle. This is not about blame. It is about education and prevention. I am here to help, not hinder. Please remember this.

As I said there are only a few things that affect, or exacerbate, a woman’s menstrual cycle and I’m going to list them below. So that way if you are wondering why you can’t get enough Naprogesic into your body, when you get your cycle, please remember the list below.

Please also read my article on “What a proper Menstrual Cycle Should Be Like”. If it isn’t like the one I describe you better book in to see me soon.

What Affects a Menstrual Cycle

  1. Poor diet – Foods such as high sugars and junk foods all cause inflammation in the body and lead to hormonal irregularities and pain with the menses
  2. Alcohol – Most alcohols contain high sugars and they also cause inflammation in the body. It also interferes with your hormones and affects the liver too. In Chinese medicine the Liver governs the menstrual cycle. Excess alcohol leads to SOL ( Shit on Liver) J
  3. Poor Sleep– Sleep deprivation leads to reduction in hormones such as serotonin and then effect the moods etc. Lack of sleep also stops the body from repairing and can lead to other health issues
  4. Trauma – Things such as surgery, a virus, cold/flu etc, or where the body has to repair, can lead to menstrual irregularities. The body shuts down the menses so that it can repair itself first
  5. Weight gain or weight loss– It is a well known fact that many athletes do not get a menstrual cycle because of lack of body fat. The same goes for people who are overweight too. Too much, or too little, body fat interferes with your fertility. All your hormones are made from fats and protein.
  6. Emotional Issues– Bottled up emotions such as anger & frustration cause blockages in the system & then cause pain. Emotional issues also cause problems with hormones. Emotions can be a major issue in any health condition, or can affect hormones.

What a proper menstrual cycle should be like

A proper menstrual cycle should be 26 –32 days in it’s length. It should be 4 days flow, 5 at the most. Any shorter than 4 days is too short and any longer than 5 days is too long. This isn’t good. You shouldn’t get any pain at all, you shouldn’t get clotting, spotting, breast tenderness, bloating, fluid retention or changes to the moods such as teariness or irritability. These are all signs of irregularities and need to be addressed. Some of the things that exacerbate menstrual issues are listed above.


Rust Never Sleeps & Neither Does Endometriosis


Rust Never Sleeps, and Neither Does Endometriosis

By Dr Andrew Orr (Reproductive Medicine &Women’s Health Specialist)

When rust gets into a piece of metal, it starts to slowly eat away and corrode its unsuspecting host. Nobody really knows where it will pop up next. At first the tiny implants of rust cannot be seen, but underneath the layer of metal, the rust is at work, slowly devouring and eating away at the core of this metal piece. It is like a weed. You can cut it out, poison it, and do whatever you can to prevent its return, but once it is there and those minute little seeds have shed and spread, not matter what you seem to do, it seems to just keep popping up everywhere.

It is silent and can often take years to take full effect and be visualised, but once it is there and it full swing, it causes weakness, corrosion, toxicity and all manner of havoc for the piece of metal it has now invaded. Just because you cannot see it, doesn’t mean it is not there either. It is the master of stealth, but eventually is will rear its ugly head everywhere, all the while it is has been working its way underneath the surface and its endless tentacles and teeth reaching out and eating at the very core of its host. As the famous musician Neil Young once said “Rust Never Sleeps”. It is perfect assassin for it needs no sleep, and it has a mission of destruction and chaos to anyone who stands in its way.

While rust may never sleep, neither does Endometriosis. Endometriosis is just like rust. It is also like a pesky weed, with a never-ending lifecycle. It spreads; it drops seeds (implants) everywhere it goes. It causes pain, it can be silent and with stealth and at the same time, spreading without causing a single ounce of pain for a significant portion of the population. All the while it is causing havoc in other parts of the body, creating the illusion that there must be something else there. It is the master of illusion. It makes many think it is something else (IBS, Bladder issues, UTI etc). It invades without a trace and can even be the master of disguise, evading even the most notable physician, but all the while it is feasting and causing chaos under the surface, just as rust does.

Just like rust, sometimes you can cut out a small piece of it and get every single minute part of it at the same time. Other times you can cut it out, and then underneath the microscopic, undetectable implants just pop up somewhere else and starts its vicious lifecycle in another location. Sometimes it can hide altogether, yet still be there under the surface causing havoc. Other times it will present itself to be seen everywhere and scatter itself so far and wide, you will never ever catch up with all of it.

While sometimes the smallest amount of it can cause immeasurable pain, sometimes the largest amounts of it will go undetected and cause no pain at all. Actually, a significant portion of women affected with Endometriosis will have no pain at all. We only hear of the women with pain and this is totally understandable. But we also need to let people know, many have no pain at all. It isn’t until the person is investigated properly (via a laparoscopy), that they find that they may be riddled with it.

Endometriosis just isn’t in the endometrial lining. It is most outside the uterus, or embedded deep into the endometrium. It can get on your tubes, in your vagina, on your bowel, into your intestines, up into your lung, around your pericardium and heart, into your brain and they have even found it in people’s fingers. It is truly like a weed, like the rust we started talking about. It can spread everywhere and as said before, can evade even the most noted medical mind. If you don’t know what you are looking for, it will try and evade you forever.

But like rust, with the right treatment, Endometriosis can found, captured, seen for what it is, have its true colour exposed, have its weakness exploited and be vanquished to the nether regions of the destructive world it appeared from. Yet, many fail to explore, or implement the right treatment, choosing to mask it, or pretend it has gone, and all the while it is being allowed to inflame, fatigue, cause pain, play with your emotions and basically wish that life as you know it would magically just end. This can be the life of many who unknowingly trust that just cutting out the rust, or trying to mask the symptoms of it, without destroying and preventing the tiny implants of it underneath the surface from appearing and taking hold again.

Like any disease, prevention is the key to treatment. Take away the fuel, and the fire can never take hold. The same goes for endometriosis. You need to take away the foods and substances (alcohol, smoking, chemical is the environment) that are fuelling the endometriosis to grow in the first place.

If the endometriosis has taken hold and is causing issues, you need to then have it cut out and removed. There is a point where no matter what medications etc you take, nothing is going to settle that inflammation and pain down and well and corrective and investigative surgery. The only way you can diagnose endometriosis is through a laparoscopy. Scans and blood test do not diagnose it. Even sometimes with surgery, endometriosis can be invisible to the naked eye, but make no mistake, it can still be there. This is why biopsies are taken to see if the microscopic implants are there causing pain and havoc, underneath he surface. But even then, it can infiltrate deep into the muscles and around the nerves to remain undetectable, even via a biopsy. But make no mistake, at some stage, it will rear its ugly head to be seen and to be heard. For those that know the symptoms, they will know it is there, when all other measures of investigation fail.

Once the visible disease is found, it needs to be removed and then you need to prevent its return. The only way you can do this is suppress and then destroy the microscopic implants and the very thing they feed off. Never make the mistake of thinking that surgery is where all your treatment ends. It isn’t. This is where the real work begins.

While estrogenic response is a know factor, we also know that insulin feeds inflammation and also causes problems with estrogen and hormone metabolism and distribution. If you get the diet under control, reduce the inflammation through lack of insulin and sugars, then you also help regulate the hormones and starve the endometriosis. You need to eat as clean as possible and this means grain free and no refined foods at all. Lots of proteins, nuts and seeds, fresh fruit and vegetables, good oils, pre and probiotics and water.

Herbal medicines and other natural medicines and supplements, can also help control and diminish the microscopic implants of endometriosis and also help prevent its return. They can also help with hormone regulation and help with insulin resistance and also help with reducing inflammation. They are a must and now why the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists recommend herbal medicines and acupuncture and part of the overall treatment plan for the guidelines of treatment of endometriosis.

You also need to look at stress and emotional factors that are driving the inflammation in the first place. Learn some coping skills, learn to relax, find that quiet time, do some yoga, or some form of relaxation. Do whatever it takes to find that stillness in your daily life. You can’t treat a disease without looking at the emotional and lifestyle component of it as well.

So, before you go and try and mask the symptoms of endometriosis and the actual diseases itself, with the pill, Mirena, or other current medical approach, ask yourself this. What are you doing to prevent the cause of the disease in the first place?

Endometriosis requires and multi-modality approach to get rid of it and prevent its return. If you don’t take this approach, then it will nearly always come back. Yes, you need to surgery, but, you still also need to prevent and treat the actual cause of the disease in the first place. This will then treat the microscopic implants from ever coming to life and causing more misery for everyone concerned.

Having just had a loved one riddled with endometriosis, I am going to do everything possible I can to help prevent the return of this horrible disease for this most cherished and loved individual. A multimodality approach will be used and I know that eventually I will take control and vanquish this terrible foe into oblivion where it belongs, like I have done for so many other people in my years of practice. But, with any disease it also requires compliance of the patient too.

What are you doing to control your endometriosis? Do you want to just mask it, or fix it for good?

If so, you need to implement a multimodality approach that I mentioned above and help boot endometriosis out of your life forever.

Just remember, rust never sleeps and neither does endometriosis.

Take care and remember there is always hope and help if you listen where to find it.

I am always here to help you find that help


Dr Andrew Orr



Post-partum refers to the time after childbirth. Post-partum care is too often forgotten as Mother’s primary concern is now her child. Restoring Qi and balance in the body is so important and our Post-Partum treatments are designed to do just this.

Following childbirth a women’s condition is very vulnerable and much care should be taken to eat well and rest. Unfortunately in our western society the trend is for women to leave their beds shortly after childbirth and even go back to work only days after this vulnerable time.

Because of the demands of childbirth much blood is lost during and after labour. This leads to deficiency of blood, chronic tiredness and fatigue. The immune system is susceptible to disease and complications such as Post Natal depression can arise. There is so much emphasis on what women should and shouldn’t do during pregnancy, but there is very little information about care after childbirth. A mother needs to be healthy in order to look after her new baby.

From the perspective of Traditional Chinese Medicine, childbirth is seen as a deficiency of QI (Vital Energy) and Blood. Organs such as the Spleen (producer of blood), the Liver (stores blood) and the Heart (commander of blood) are all deficient as a result of blood loss. This can cause disharmony in the body.

Signs and Symptoms of Qi and Blood Deficiency include:

  • Tiredness, fatigue
  • Pale skin, complexion
  • Weakness of limbs
  • Dizziness, light-headedness
  • Poor appetite
  • Blurred vision
  • Depression
  • Poor memory
  • Insomnia
  • Loose stools
  • Pale tongue
  • Weak pulse

If lost Qi and Blood is not replaced it can lead to serious complications that may manifest immediately or years later. It may even affect a woman’s ability to fall pregnant again.

Specially formulated Chinese Herbs as well as Acupuncture are effective methods to restore Qi and blood and an integral part of Chinese Medicine. We encourage all women to book in for a Post partum treatment after childbirth to restore their Qi and Blood and restore their energy and vitality again.

There are also a number of things that you can do at home to help restore balance to the body. See our Fact Sheets and Forms page for more information on Post Partum.